Not having a sucky day, but now it just got awesomely started! Thanks!
(Long ago I had friends who lived out in the boonies, got themselves three pigs thinking they'd start a pig farm and sell the meat. On a visit, they told me they scrapped the "meat" portion of the plan and now had three "pet" pigs. Because they'd found that pigs are affectionate, and have distinct personalities, and they just couldn't part with them/butcher them.
Gordon Ramsay raised pigs for meat on his show The F Word, because he believes being closer to your food is a good thing, and when he brought them to to be slaughtered and processed, he cried. And he's usually a total hardass.
He cried, but he didn't back down. Says something about him.
I don't actually want to "meet my meat." Or look it in the eye. If I did, I would be a complete vegan. I compromise by getting my meet already cut up and frozen, but from a local CSA that humanely raises AND slaughters them. THEY can hug them and wax lyrical about little lambs frolicking through the spring flowers. :-/
I respect Ramsay a lot for that. I'd probably hunt if I thought I'd be any good at it, but as it is, I'd probably be bad enough to maim the animals and make them suffer unnecessarily.
My ex hubby, who used to hunt and slaughter their own chickens (so did his dad, and insisted his sons learn how), now says to hunters with guns "unless you can go out there mano-a-mano with an animal, no big guns, just you and it, and kill it for food, you don't deserve to eat it. Make it a FAIR fight or don't do it."
I think it's okay to raise and slaughter animals for food. (Not ideal, I highly respect vegans.) It's just not acceptable to make them feel pain or fear while we're doing it. We have the technology to be humane, we should use it.
"unless you can go out there mano-a-mano with an animal, no big guns, just you and it, and kill it for food, you don't deserve to eat it. Make it a FAIR fight or don't do it."
How about car-to-deer, when the herd outstrips its food source because of hand to hand deer hunting.
Oh, and it's not legal in most places in the US.
It's a big billy bad ass attitude.
Does he say the same thing to ALL meat eaters? If not, it shows the hypocrisy.
Nah. He's mostly talking to the kind of hunter that gets beered up and thinks hunting is a "fun" "sport" to do with buddies to overcompensate for small penises/inoperative brain waves. Stephen doesn't call it "sport" or "sporting" that way. Also, I get the impression his dad used to do it that way, so he's got a chip on his shoulder about it. Can't blame him.
yannow, I shudder at the thought of you and Stephen going mano-a-mano in this discussion. Not sure either of you would survive! ;-P You've got the training, he's got adrenaline-stoked PTSD from a combat-trained Marine Drill Sargeant Irish Catholic alcoholic abusive father. Not sure THAT would be a "fair" tussle!
for reference, the beef, pork, and chicken used at Chipotle is not at all factory-farmed - they only buy humane meat, according to some of the sustainable food websites I've been reading lately.
It appears that YouTube is having issues...none of the videos I've tried to look at recently have worked, including this one, which worked earlier today.
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Date: 2010-07-27 01:39 pm (UTC)I saw that episode of "No Reservations" last night.
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Date: 2010-07-27 02:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-27 02:31 pm (UTC)(Long ago I had friends who lived out in the boonies, got themselves three pigs thinking they'd start a pig farm and sell the meat. On a visit, they told me they scrapped the "meat" portion of the plan and now had three "pet" pigs. Because they'd found that pigs are affectionate, and have distinct personalities, and they just couldn't part with them/butcher them.
I'm rethinking my lust for Chinese BBQ pig.)
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Date: 2010-07-27 02:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-27 02:52 pm (UTC)I don't actually want to "meet my meat." Or look it in the eye. If I did, I would be a complete vegan. I compromise by getting my meet already cut up and frozen, but from a local CSA that humanely raises AND slaughters them. THEY can hug them and wax lyrical about little lambs frolicking through the spring flowers. :-/
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Date: 2010-07-27 02:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-27 03:02 pm (UTC)I think it's okay to raise and slaughter animals for food. (Not ideal, I highly respect vegans.) It's just not acceptable to make them feel pain or fear while we're doing it. We have the technology to be humane, we should use it.
Preaching to choir here, I suspect. :-)
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Date: 2010-07-27 03:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-27 03:41 pm (UTC)How about car-to-deer, when the herd outstrips its food source because of hand to hand deer hunting.
Oh, and it's not legal in most places in the US.
It's a big billy bad ass attitude.
Does he say the same thing to ALL meat eaters? If not, it shows the hypocrisy.
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Date: 2010-07-27 04:12 pm (UTC)yannow, I shudder at the thought of you and Stephen going mano-a-mano in this discussion. Not sure either of you would survive! ;-P You've got the training, he's got adrenaline-stoked PTSD from a combat-trained Marine Drill Sargeant Irish Catholic alcoholic abusive father. Not sure THAT would be a "fair" tussle!
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Date: 2010-07-27 05:37 pm (UTC)then was at chipotle and was like "hmm...I think I want a carnitas taco."
Your post actually influenced my buying habits. Better be careful with that :-)
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Date: 2010-07-27 05:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-27 05:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-27 05:46 pm (UTC)It appears that YouTube is having issues...none of the videos I've tried to look at recently have worked, including this one, which worked earlier today.
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Date: 2010-07-27 11:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-28 03:04 am (UTC)and, i think my cat might sit on him and smoosh him. three of that little pig would maybe equal my cat.